Monday, December 26, 2011

Thirty-Three: In The Stream Of Time

When you’re a farm boy growing up in the Tenisi hills and you think of riverboats going up and down the Misipi, one of the words that comes to mind is fast. There’s plenty of reason for that; riverboats are the fastest things people have in Meriga these days, barring a lake schooner or a big square-rigged merchant ship with a good wind helping out, and when you’ve walked along the banks of the Misipi and watched one riverboat after another show up out of the distance behind you, roll right on upstream past you, and vanish in the distance ahead, it’s hard to think of them as slow.

When you’re on board a plain working boat, though, it’s hard to keep that in mind, because you don’t spend much time racing along with the current. Certainly we didn’t do much of that on the way to Memfis. Every few hours through the day, some little town came into sight, the Jennel Mornay puffed up to the levee and sat there for a good long while as things got offloaded and a few people clattered down the landing stage, and then bales and barrels and sacks got hauled on board by the roustabouts to go downriver to Sanloo or Memfis. Once that was done, it was back out into the river, but that still meant that maybe one hour in three went into pulling up to the levee, pulling away from the levee, or sitting there with nobody but the roustabouts doing much of anything at all.

Come evening, whatever little town came next was where we stopped for the night. They say that riverboats used to travel by night a long time ago, but these days there’s too much danger from snags and sandbars. A good pilot might risk a night run when the moon’s full and there’s money to be made, but usually the risk’s not worth taking, and so come evening the boats tie up at the nearest town. The ship’s officers eat dinner in the main cabin with the passengers who can afford cabin fare, the crew eats down on the main deck with the passengers who can’t, and everybody but whoever’s on watch goes to sleep until first light tells the engineer it’s time to heat up the boiler again.

Thinking back on the trip down the river, it occurs to me that that’s one of maybe three times in my life that I haven’t had work to do for a good long time. The first time was during the few months between when my mother and I went to Shanuga after my father didn’t come back from the war, and when I got taken on as a ruinman’s prentice; the second was on the riverboat heading for Memfis; and the third time—well, that’s here and now, because even though I’m sitting in the biggest ruin that’s left in Meriga, there’s not that much for a ruinman to do just at the moment, other than turn the pages of old books about aliens, and wonder what Eleen and Tashel Ban are going to find next, and tell the story of how I got here in the pages of a notebook that nobody’s probably ever going to read.

I didn’t even have that much to do on the way downriver to Memfis, and Berry was mostly down on the main deck, making friends with the engineer and watching the steam engines run. I’d have done the same thing at his age, and might have done it even at mine if I didn’t have as much to think about as I did. Still, there it was; I had a lot of time to myself, and spent most of it standing on the walkway that ran along the outer edge of the cabin deck, thinking and watching the Ilanoy forests and fields roll by.

That was when I understood, deep down, just how small Meriga is nowadays compared to what it was back in the old world. By that I don’t mean just that it lost all the land it did to the Meycans and the Neeonjin and the coastal allegiancies and Nuwinga, or the half a continent or so between the Suri River and the Neeonjin country that nobody lives in any more because it’s all dust and sand. What I mean is that even the land that’s still inside Meriga’s borders these days fits Meriga the way my father’s overalls would have fit me when I was five years old. There’s just not that many people in Meriga, not compared to how many there used to be, and it shows.

I saw that over and over again as the banks of the river rolled past. We’d come to some town with a hundred buildings or so, the sort of lively market town you find all through Meriga where farmers bring their crops in for sale and buy what they need from the blacksmith, the leatherworker and the bulk goods store, and one glance from the walkway around the cabin deck showed the traces of the same town back in the old world, when it was ten or twenty or fifty times bigger. Sometimes, too, we’d pass long stretches of riverbank where there wasn’t a town at all any more, and there would be the marks of an old town, all overgrown with trees or sticking out here and there in the middle of a pasture.

The two big towns we passed on the way down to Memfis, Yoree and Sanloo, made the point even harder to miss. Yoree’s a town of decent size, and Sanloo’s one of the dozen biggest cities in Meriga, but if you look at either one from the river you can see that they’re both tiny next to what they used to be. The main ruins in both of them got stripped down to the ground a long time ago, since they’re the kind of riverside towns that are where they are for a reason. Still, if you know what to look for, and any ruinman does, the lines of the old streets and what’s left of the foundations of old buildings go as far as you can see upriver and down.

Now and then, too, we’d come to a place where the ancients tossed a bridge right across the river; there would be big cracked shafts of concrete rising up from the water, and what was left of ramps going up on either side. Sometimes, when the road that used to run to the bridge still gets some use, I could see a ferryman’s house on one side or the other and a square-bowed boat tied up next to it, or scooting across the river like a water bug with the ferryman sculling for all he was worth at the stern. Still, more often than not what was left of the bridge would just be sitting there in among the trees and the water reeds with nothing else anywhere in sight, cracked and streaked with long red lines of rust, and only there because it wasn’t yet worth a ruinman’s time to get out there with a raft, crack the concrete open, and haul what was left of the rebar to a metal merchant. If the people on the Jennel Mornay had been the only people left alive anywhere on Mam Gaia’s round belly, I don’t think what was left of those bridges or the empty places that used to be towns could have looked any more lonely.

So that’s what I was thinking about as one day turned into another and the Jennel Mornay’s big stern wheel churned the green water into foam. Finally one evening we got to the place where the Ilanoy flows into the Misipi. It was just after dinner, which was bean soup, brown bread, and the cheap yellow beer they make up and down the Misipi Valley, which I hadn’t yet gotten used to then, and we’d eaten it the way all the cabin passengers on the Jennel Mornay ate every meal they got, which was sitting at long iron benches on either side of a long iron table running down the middle of the main cabin, with the thrum of the steam engines down below making the plates and mugs rattle loud enough that talking wasn’t too easy.

About the time I finished my soup, the whistle sounded up above us, three times, long and slow. Slane was eating with us, as he usually did, and looked up suddenly. “When you finish that,” he said, “you might want to step outside. There’s something worth seeing.”

I’d figured out already that what Slane didn’t know about traveling on riverboats wasn’t worth worrying about, so I downed the last of my beer and got to my feet. “Which side?”

“Right hand side’s the best.”

I guessed what he was talking about by then, and went outside the way he’d said. Berry was right behind me, since some things are even more interesting than a steam engine. It was as nice an evening as you could ask for, with puffs of clouds scattered over the sky like loms grazing in a field. The Ilanoy was good and wide by then; the land to the left—to port, I ought to say, since it was on a boat—was the same sort of thing we’d been passing for days, bluffs with wetland trees and water reeds all along their feet, but the land to starboard was low, with trees rising up just high enough that I couldn’t see past them to whatever was on the other side of them. Then the land to starboard wasn’t there any more; the Jennel Mornay’s whistle sounded again, three more times, and all of a sudden we were out on the Misipi.

I’ve never seen another river half so big. It was wider than a lot of lakes, with brown water rolling up out of the southwest just at that point—it bends a lot, and when the Misipi decides to bend, there’s not much that can argue with it. The far bank was a low line of green in the middle distance at first, and then we pulled away from the Ilanoy bank toward the deep water more or less in the middle. There were two more riverboats paddling south toward Sanloo within sight of us, and four of them paddling north, maybe headed all the way up to Meeyaplis. One of them whistled back to us, but there was more than enough river for everybody, and pretty soon they were out of sight to the north and we were passing others, steaming upstream past us as we steamed down.

After a while Berry said his goodbyes and scampered back down to the main deck, and a couple of other people who’d come out when the whistle sounded went back inside. I walked forward to the front of the cabin deck, where I could see the whole river in front of me and both banks off in the middle distance, and just stood there taking it in. Sanloo was another day or so downriver, Slane had told me earlier, and Memfis a few days further beyond that; I knew I needed to start thinking about what would happen once we got to Memfis—dealing with the local ruinmen’s guild, trying to find the Walnut Ridge Telecommunications Facility, and if we were lucky, juggling all the details of running a dig, which I’d never done before by myself, much less with one of the most powerful jennels in Meriga looking over my shoulder and paying the bills—but that wasn’t what was on my mind just then. So I stood there at the rail and watched the river and the banks move past.

It was getting toward night before we got to the next town, which was Altan, over on the Ilanoy side. There were already lamps being lit there, so I could see it a good ways off, but the sky was still light enough that I could see something else: a line of concrete pilings like broken teeth, rising up out of the Misipi on either side. I blinked, looked again, and said some language hotter than I usually use; it hadn’t occurred to me that even the ancients would have put a bridge over a river that big.

“There were once dozens of those, as it happens,” Plummer’s voice said next to me.

I hadn’t heard him walk up, but somehow that didn’t surprise me. I glanced at him. “On the Misipi?”

“Exactly. All of them gone now, to be sure; the last were here and at Rocalan, and they were destroyed during the Third Civil War. A pity; I don’t imagine anything of the sort will ever be built again.”

“Does anyone even know any more how they were made?”

“There are books on the subject at Melumi and Sisnaddi, and a few other places.”

He was watching me with that same odd look, as though he was waiting for me to say something in particular, so I thought for a long moment before answering. There was more than that to make me pause, though, because Melumi’s got the Versty and Sisnaddi’s got the government archives, and I’d never heard about any other place with a collection of books worth noticing. He was, I suddenly guessed, trying to tell me something. What?

“If the books tell how it’s done,” I asked him, “why won’t a bridge like that ever be built again?”

Maybe it was the right thing to say. His voice went quiet, so that I had to strain to hear him. “Building a bridge is a simple thing for a nation that already has the factories, the machines, the steel, the fuel—especially the fuel. And it’s an obvious thing if there are tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of cars, and people who want to drive the cars from one side of a river to the other side and back again every day. If the factories and the machines are gone, and the steel has to be cut by hand out of old buildings by your colleagues, and the fuel and the cars and most of the people are gone as well, it’s neither obvious nor simple. A bridge like this would cost every mark the government—” He said the word the old-fashioned way, rather than saying it “gummint” the way everyone else does nowadays. “—takes in taxes over ten years, and do no more good for anyone than a ferryman and his boat.”

I thought about a conversation we’d had earlier, on the way to Proo. “Well, but don’t they spend plenty of money on canals?”

“True. That takes men with shovels and men with trowels, earth and stone and mortar, and all of those can be had for a very modest sum these days. You know the price of steel, I believe. How much would it cost to bridge the river here with steel beams?”

I did know the price of steel, and even trying to guess the cost made my head hurt. “Okay,” I said. “That makes sense. And I guess there are books in Melumi and Sisnaddi and those other places that tell how to build canals, too.”

“Among other things,” Plummer said.

Right then I was sure I knew what he was trying to tell me. My thoughts set off running in half a dozen directions at once, but I managed to get them settled enough not to blurt out something like an idiot. “Maybe you can tell me this,” I said finally. “If nobody’s ever going to build a bridge like that again, what’s the value of the books that tell how it’s done?”

Plummer didn’t say anything for a long time, then: “When I was a boy, which was rather a few years ago, there was a book for children I read often, about a boy who made a little boat and put it in the river, hoping that it would travel all the way down to the sea. Did you ever read that?”

I was surprised enough that I turned to face him. The lamps of Altan were spots of light mirrored in his eyeglasses. “I used to love that book!”

“Did you ever make a little boat like the one in the story, and put it in the river?”

“Yes. I used to wonder what happened to it.”

“One never knows.” He turned away, looking out into the gathering dark on the river. “Knowledge is much the same. It comes down the stream of time to us, and perhaps turns up on the bank, and we can put it back in the water and send it on its way, or leave it on the bank to rot. The difference, of course, is that there is no sea: just a river flowing out of sight, and perhaps the chance that somewhere further downstream the little boat will be of use to someone, for reasons we will doubtless never know.”

He looked back toward me, then, and I could just see his smile in the last of the light. “An interesting subject to think about. We’ll talk more another time.” With that, he turned and went back into the cabin. I stared after him, and waited a long moment before following.

I didn’t sleep well that night, because I knew what he was talking about. There were stories and rumors I’d heard since I was small about people, maybe in Meriga, maybe somewhere else, who had knowledge from the old world that nobody else had any more. Half the robot stories my father used to tell me, and more than half the ones the prentices used to tell each other in Gray Garman’s house, had somebody mixed up in them who had an old book he wasn’t supposed to have, or something like that, and of course one part of the reason that ruinmen live outside the city walls and get uneasy looks from good folk is that a lot of people wonder if we know more than we ought to.

Now of course I knew that the right thing to do was to go talk to a priestess as soon as I had the chance and tell her what Plummer had said to me, and of course I knew that I wasn’t going to do anything of the kind. You don’t become a ruinman and dream about Deesee and go searching for Star’s Reach if you think everything from the old world ought to stay buried forever, and no doubt Plummer knew that perfectly well. Still, between wondering what Plummer and his nameless friends might be offering me, and wondering what they might ask from me in return, I had a hard time getting to sleep, and when I finally did, damn if I didn’t have a dream about Deesee like the ones I had when I was a boy: the vast empty streets and the water’s surface shimmering overhead as I hurried to meet somebody whose name I didn’t know at the base of the Spire.

I woke up before the sun came round Mam Gaia’s belly to shine on us. Berry was sound asleep and I didn’t wake him; I washed up quietly and got dressed and went to see if Plummer was awake yet. I went to the door to his cabin, and found it just a little open; when I nudged it a bit further, I could see at once that the cabin was empty and the bed hadn’t been slept in.

I admit I laughed, at myself as much as anything, guessing that he’d slipped off the boat as soon as it docked in Altan; I’d have done the same thing in his place, I realized right away, just in case I’d misjudged the person I’d talked to. I wondered how long it would be until he showed up again.

The empty cabin didn’t have any answers for me. After a moment I went aft to the kitchen, where they were boiling up a big pot of soup for breakfast, and begged an early cup of chicory brew.

29 comments:

Guilherme de Baskerville said...

Hum, I wonder if there's a Brotherhood of Steel of some sort in your scenario. You don't strike me as the kind of author who would have one, but I can always be wrong. Hum, maybe not so much a Brotherhood of Steel as a secret "green wizards" society... Anyway, some kind of organization dedicated to the preservation of "old world" technology.

Oh, it's a pop culture reference, btw, about a computer game, so sorry if some people (JMG included) are unaware of it, but here's a wiki entry:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Brotherhood_of_Steel

John Michael Greer said...

Guilherme, not a Brotherhood of Steel, certainly. (Yes, I had to look them up.) As for what Plummer is up to, that'll be revealed in its proper time. (Heh heh heh...)

Unknown said...

John: Thank you so much for the intriguing story of a possible (probable?) future.

I was delighted with your reference to one of my favorite childhood books "Paddle to the Sea" which I read over and over even into my early adolescents.

John Michael Greer said...

Unknown, excellent! I was hoping someone would catch that.

Dwig said...

Here's another "Paddle to the Sea" fan. I can still close my eyes and visualize the little canoe, as the boy first made it, and the Great Lakes maps showing its progress.

Joel said...

I liked that book, too, when I was little; I recognized the reference, too. It's good to be reminded of its name.

Very, very interesting that a story like that would become the paradigm example of dim hope in some unreliable form of communication. The notion of broadcasting served that purpose from the Synoptic Gospels up through at least Tom Brokaw, but I guess its importance has already begun to fade.

John Michael Greer said...

Dwig, yes, it was a favorite of mine. One of the things this story is about is stories, and that one seemed to merit a place in it.

Joel, that's a fascinating point. Most of the really effective methods of organic growing these days do very little broadcasting, i.e., scattering seeds all anyhow over a field; it's proven generally better to follow a Native American model of making every seed count -- think of the corn-beans-squash polyculture of the eastern tribes, with a fish buried in a little hill of earth and seeds placed just so in the soil. It's quite possible that farmers in Trey's time use similar methods, and so the metaphor of broadcasting won't occur to many minds.

RPC said...

Hmmmm...intriguing. Trey's certainly getting an education! It'll be interesting to discover what Plummer's really up to. It also reveals a potential tension between the priestesses (who believe the old world should be forgotten) and the scholars (who try to maintain its knowledge).
On another level, I find myself asking after this episode: why no railroads? A steam engine efficient enough to propel a sternwheeler should be efficient enough to propel metal
wheels on metal rails. Plenty of old roadbeds and plenty of rail should still exist; you could devolve to iron rail or even strap rail and keep something going where canals just wouldn't work. Proscribed technology, perhaps? (I'm also surprised someone down Joja way hasn't started growing coffee; I believe it's second only to oil in terms of trade today and the demand would certainly be there!)

John Michael Greer said...

RPC, have you noticed that railroads never pay for their own construction? Like highway systems, they get built via massive government subsidies; they also require quite a bit of existing infrastructure and a fair bit of political and social stability.

Trey's time is around a century after a prolonged and bitter civil war that left much of the country in ruins and very nearly bankrupted the government. Before then, things were better but not that much better, what with the aftermath of the long drought, severe depopulation due to the legacies of our age, and various other troubles. The economic vitality, tax base, and political stability needed for a railroad network is only just coming within reach, if things don't fall apart again. Give it another century, and there'll be railroads; at the time of this story, though, not yet.

Unknown said...

If they are eating bread every day, I would expect them to be eating a lot of porridge too. Less milling is required and you can easily make good porridge from a wider variety of grains than make good bread. Porridge may be made sweet or savory, and the cold leftovers can be fried up.

Boiling is a more fuel efficient way of making grain edible than baking. Porridge takes less than an hour to cook and requires only a small fire and a pot. Leavened bread can only be produced in sedentary conditions because you have to maintain a yeast starter, give the dough time to rise, and fire up a heavy oven to baking temperatures which are higher than the boiling temperature of water. It's only worth the time and fuel if you bake several loaves at a time; hence in preindustrial cities most people didn't bake at home.

The ancient Romans ate porridge until they got rich enough to afford bread, and porridge remained the basic ration of the army when on the move.

(Deborah Bender)

Thijs Goverde said...

Oooh, the plot thickens!

And by the way: what a coincidence that this weeks ADR post had 'hope' for a subject...

John Crawford said...

"The Ilanoy was good and wide by then; the land to the left—to port, I ought to say, since it was on a boat—was the same sort of thing we’d been passing for days, bluffs with wetland trees and water reeds all along their feet, but the land to starboard was low, with trees rising up just high enough that I couldn’t see past them to whatever was on the other side of them. Then the land to starboard wasn’t there any more; the Jennel Mornay’s whistle sounded again, three more times, and all of a sudden we were out on the Misipi."

To this day it is a perfect description of the confluence of the two rivers. Alton, "Altan", was originally settled because of a natural harbor and its position on the east side of the Mississippi River. It will be fascinating to see your take on "Sanloo" as its future may not be so certain as it was settled because of its access to the west. If the west is now barren, as in your story, the reason for Sanloo is gone. It is also important to remember the now devastated communities on the east side of the river at Sanloo were once booming because of their very access to the east.

I suspect little villages along the Illinois River, such as the one I live in, may just make it into the future.

Great novel but I would really like to have it in hand for my library.

Houner

Guilherme de Baskerville said...

So, they are going to Memphis, and Elvis Presley acts are folk culture in his time. I wonder if people make a connection at all in Trey's time. Is there some sort of Graceland shrine or something?

I guess that falls into the category of "watch and see".

Raymond Wharton said...

Thinking back to the means of communication between the aliens and Star's Reach, it is so much like the knowledge of the stream of time, or the little boats.

Sending radio waves to other stars, hoping they will be pick some bit of sense out of them.

I wonder how long it took the researchers to piece together any of the story they are telling about the other planet, and how very flawed that story must surely be.

John Michael Greer said...

Deborah, like most varieties of food, porridge is at least partly a matter of cultural tastes -- some cultures eat it, others don't. All I know is that when I see Trey eating in my imagination, it's usually some variation on bread and bean soup.

Thijs, you know, I didn't think of that until you pointed it out...

John, it's amazing how much info you can get about a place you've never been, given good maps, good books, and Google Maps street view. Glad to hear it worked. As for Sanloo, it's a big town in Trey's time because of the river trade, because what's now Missouri still gets enough rain to be worth farming -- it's west of there that the desert closes in -- and because it's a major army town, the HQ of the army guarding Meriga's southwestern frontier with the Meycan Empire. The river trade's the big thing, though -- the Misipi valley is the most economical route for Meyco to trade with Genda and vice versa, what with Jinya pirates on the loose along the Lannic seaboard. Plenty of small towns along the Misipi do well providing services to the riverboat trade. More on this a bit later!

John Michael Greer said...

Guilherme, wait and see! ;-)

Raymond, yes, that metaphor is deliberate, and will play a certain role later on.

LewisLucanBooks said...

It was so great to remember to check "Star's Reach" on the last day of the year. I loved those books as a kid. I think I was more partial to "Tree in the Trail." Probably because my grandparents lived near Scott's Bluff and Chimney Rock. You could still see the depression in the earth where the wagons rolled through.

I thought this entry was kind of poignant. Gave me an attack of "nostalgia for the present."

I also think this entry illustrates, a bit, what Green Wizardry is about. Who knows what book (I unearthed a copy of "Cloudburst II", yesterday) or bit of alt technology that gets passed along might be of value to someone else, further down the time stream.

Calamity Jean said...

Is Yoree the future incarnation of Peoria IL?

Slorisb said...

Paddle to the Sea. Published in 1941. I had it as a child. I was born in 42. Gwyneth's family had it also. We had it here for the grandkids. And here it is again. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Steve

John Michael Greer said...

Lewis, nice! I have the first Cloudburst, but haven't seen the second in a long time.

Calamity, bingo.

Slorisb, it was a major fave of mine when I was a child. too.

John Michael Greer said...

By the way, several people have asked about the possibility of making donations to help cover the cost of the time that goes into this story and my other blog. I've gone ahead and added a donation button to the main page. It's entirely up to you, but if you feel inspired, a tip would be welcome!

flute said...

As for porridge vs bread, porridge is energy-efficient to make if you're staying in one place, whereas bread is easy to bring along when travelling, when lighting up a fire to make porridge might be less practical. There are also many varieties of bread - with or without leavening. Bread can also be thin and dry (we eat a lot of that here in Sweden) or even thick and dry (rusks) which makes it easier to carry on your travels.

Steve said...

This is a great story, and I appreciate how the metaphor introduced in this chapter fits the story itself in many ways. Just as Plummer introduces the metaphor to Trey and Trey pieces together just why Plummer has his eye on him, the boat passes the confluence of the Illinois and Mississippi, and the plot thickens as the river widens. This seems like Trey's first glance at his role in the greater course of history.

Having followed both this blog and the other for quite a while, I've had a few of those "aha" moments realizing more of what you're saying, and I appreciate that you've made such an effort to get people to recognize our role in shaping the future.

As a follow up, are there other, lower tech ways of sending a tip your way for the blogs that don't involve e-transactions? I've made a habit of buying your books, but I'd be happy to chip in for the online writing as well.

John Michael Greer said...

Flute, true enough! I don't even know off hand what's going into the bread Trey's eating -- for all I know it may be cassava.

Steve, thank you! There's always mail; c/o AODA, PO Box 996, Cumberland MD 21501 will get to me promptly.

John Michael Greer said...

I've replaced the PayPal donate button on the main page, and it appears to work -- a couple of people had problems with it. Many thanks to those who tipped, or tried to tip, the storyteller!

flute said...

Deborah: More about bread... Unleavened bread is easy to make if you make it thin, and can even be made in a skillet (I've tried it many times myself).
In the old times in Sweden, people used to make "flat bread" (leavened or unleavened) in large quantities at a time and leave it hanging to dry. Then they would eat from that batch for a month or so until they baked the next batch. This was quite energy efficient. Unleavened bread can be made from just about any cereal - even those that are useless for leavened bread, e.g. barley or corn (think nachos/tortillas).

Joel said...

>Most of the really effective methods of organic growing these days do very little broadcasting

The example you mentioned involves some uncommonly large seeds. Also, trials and historical accounts I've read of three sisters growing suggest that the most effective methods aren't so much polycultures as close rotations/succession planting. Carol Deppe has found and preserved a variety of beans that grows OK in the shade of a corn patch, but in other respects she makes the best case against naive three sisters polyculture, based on both Buffalo Bird Woman's methods and her own exhaustive research.

Speaking of close succession, no-till methods involving small grains quite often rely on broadcasting. Masanobu Fukuoka's fields are probably the best example, but I also have high hopes that Ron Morse's work will eventually be adapted to less tractor-dependent methods.

The only example I know of small grains being planted such that every seed counts, is the method developed by Marc Bonfils. Even that method includes some broadcasting of clover seed.

Broadcasting will still be necessary to grow grains like millet or teff, I think, in regions short of water. To make each seed count more, and to make sure they only sprout after particularly hard rain, they might be agglomerated into clay seed balls, but those, again, are typically broadcast.

Re: Sanloo: I just learned about Cahokia. It really is a reasonable place to put a city, isn't it?

@Unknown: Miners who migrated to gold rushes in California and Alaska were known as "sourdoughs," because they tended to keep a pouch of starter on them at all times.

PossumLodge said...

Hi John,

I've been a fan of yours for a while, but this is my first post. Love your weekly essays, and increasingly I look forward to them and refer them to other folks. More recently I've read your books Ecotechnic Future and Wealth of Nature. I bought 10 copies of E.F. to give to family and friends for Christmas! And now, I've stumbled on this intriguing quest of Trey and his companions, and I've been devouring it the last few days.

The discussions with your readers are interesting too. In the discussion after a much earlier chapter, I believe you mentioned that when you were young you read the Sci-Fi stories of Andre Norton. Well, now that's a name that brings back memories for me. I guess it was the summer of 1970, when I was 13, that I pored over "Secret of the Lost Race", mesmerized by her story about Joktar from N'Yok and his adventures on the planet Fenris.

I didn't read any other books by Andre Norton, and that one story was a long time ago. But your tale about Trey the ruinman brings me memories of another story that I also read in my youth, but in this case have continued to re-read many times over the years -- A Canticle for Leibowitz. That's definitely a book that has molded and shaped me. Star's Reach also reminds me of some troubling stories that I've only very recently tackled -- Stephen King's Dark Tower series. I wouldn't go so far as to agree with Plummer that all stories are scraps of one story, but in the words of another great storyteller:

“Oh, what a shame!” said Lucy. “I did so want to read it again. Well, at least I must remember it. Let's see . . . it was about . . . about . . . oh dear, it's all fading away again.
“And even this last page is going blank. This is a very queer book. How can I have forgotten? It was about a cup and a sword and a tree and a green hill, I know that much. But I can't remember and what shall I do?”
And she never could remember; and ever since that day what Lucy means by a good story is a story which reminds her of the forgotten story in the Magician's Book.

I'm intrigued by the ways that Star's Reach illustrates the points which you explain in Ecotechnic Future. Your points about cultural Conservers argue that, in the difficult times that may lie ahead, the only artistic fragments that might make it through the seive will be those which a) somebody is really passionate about, enough to keep doing it and passing it on to others; and b) it doesn't take a lot of fancy equipment to do. As I read Ecotechnic Future, your arguments made sense, but I never would have guessed that Elvis impersonations might be a cultural fragment that might meet the two criteria, but there you go. It works for me.

Star's Reach also helps me understand your arguments in Ecotechnic Future about the different stages that our economy will go through, and why, and the fact that the transitions will be gradual and uneven. In your story, it makes sense that ruinmen found useful work to do in Troy, even when scarcity industrialism was still going on in other parts of the country. And I gather that the comunity at Star's Reach, even as late as the days of Anna's parents, still managed to eke out something like an industrial lifestyle, long after everyone else had moved on to a salvage economy? It is also very telling that Trey perceives that ruinmen are working themselves out of a job.

Anyway John, keep up the good work.

Possum Lodge said...

As a Canuck, I've been interested in the relations between Meriga and Genda in the 25th century. It was touching to think that, after all those chaotic years, Trey and Berry would still look down on an international boundary from their vantagepoint high in the Troy Tower. Permit me to be a bit skeptical, however. My hunch is that when Gray Garman and his prentices continue their scouring of the military office under the ruins of Shanuga, they might find other messages from General Burkert to POTUS/DNS/DCI etc, recommending that, in view of the exigencies, that all steps be taken to secure supplies from northern allies ...

Looking forward to the next chapter!